From ld231782 Tue Nov 9 02:10:46 1993 Return-Path: Received: from parry.lance.colostate.edu by longs.lance.colostate.edu (5.65/lance.1.5) id AA05504; Tue, 9 Nov 93 02:10:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9311090910.AA05504@longs.lance.colostate.edu> To: cypherpunks@toad.com Cc: ld231782 Subject: Real Identity: valid or worthless? Date: Tue, 09 Nov 93 02:10:38 -0700 From: "L. Detweiler" X-Mts: smtp Many have sent me mail along the lines, `the concept of real identity is fading away completely. It no longer has any meaning. You simply don't get it. There are no distinctions between imaginary and real identities.' But that is not my complaint, that you have an arsenal of imaginary identities to play with. It is when you wish to pretend that they are *real* that I object. Society actually tolerates anonymity and pseudonymity. They say, `if you are not willing to affix your name to your opinions, they WEIGH LESS than if you do.' (some may say they are `worthless' -- but that is their opinion, and they are entitled to it!) We cannot ever change that. That is a Universal Law. If I volunteer to be responsible for everything I write, that automatically carries far more intrinsic weight and `reputation capital' than any monster's tentacle or Medusa's snake. Identity, reputation, and value are interchangable! And the choice of whether I am responsible for my writing and actions *can* be made, recorded, and enforced! It is not allowable that anonymous opinions be *globally* censored, but it is entirely acceptable, and necessary, there be the capability for individual, *local* filtering. Many cypherpunks denigrating the value of *real* identity and blurring the distinction of real and imaginary identities are casting out wretched lies. They intrinisically recognize the implicit existence of the fundamental distinction between real and imaginary identities, and the extreme value of *real* identity between the two, while at the same time denying it all. The PSYCHOPUNKS seek to STEAL REAL REPUTATION with PSEUDOSPOOFING of IMAGINARY IDENTITIES. they would gain no profit if no one trusted any identity (the philosophy they simultaneously advocate and defame)! they only gain so long as the system of trust they rob from is in place! If no one trusted the system (as they exalt and defame, again, as the context suits them), they would no longer be able to rob from it! In their deceptive sham and confidence game, they *lie* that they are accountable for their opinions! And defraud all the investors who believe it! They understand: the distinction of real and imaginary identities is a an extremely powerful mechanism that involves intense levels of trust. And wherever there is value and trust, the criminals zoom in on! ``we can steal real reputation with imaginary identities by corrupting any system that distinguishes between real and imaginary identities.'' Nothing but the ancient criminal refrain, ``we can steal money from honest people with criminal means by corrupting any system that protects honest people's money.'' Or, in the root form, ``we can steal money by tricking honest people.'' pseudospoofers are nothing but REPUTATION THIEVES. of course they exalt the system they rob from! and deny that there is any way to embezzle gold from the treasury! they even deny the gold has any value! why, they are providing a valuable public service by relieving everyone of their gold who is too ignorant to realize it can be stolen! What utter, shameful, poisonous hypocrisy. I hope you all choke on your own poison. I have news for you, psychopunks, THE TREASURY IS BARE.