From ld231782 Sun Dec 5 23:57:55 1993 Return-Path: Received: from casco.lance.colostate.edu by longs.lance.colostate.edu (5.65/lance.1.5) id AA04877; Sun, 5 Dec 93 23:57:49 -0700 Message-Id: <9312060657.AA04877@longs.lance.colostate.edu> To: cypherpunks@toad.com Cc: ld231782 Subject: Gwest what! Date: Sun, 05 Dec 93 23:57:48 -0700 From: "L. Detweiler" X-Mts: smtp Sigh. No one has taken over for me, but I still have many requests from people who loved the Guess Which Eminent Leader Said This game. I will do this one in batches, and save the best for last. I include some translations (they speak in CryptoAnarchish, and this will help refine my translation skills). This is probably the last one, but one never knows if I might get some new material later. * * * Third Eminent Leader The Third eminent leader is mostly uninvolved personally, but he is still an accomplice to concealing the perversions of the other two leaders. `Pseudonyms are for magazine subscriptions. Besides, Chaum came up with pseudonyms for his own protocols. Is he subversive?' The point to make about this is that Chaum's pseudonyms are *understood* to be pseudonyms by a bank. But this detracts from the potency of the propaganda. And the Cryptoanarchist tentacles are very different than magazine pseudonyms! But he will never understand something so contrary to the Religion of Lies. (I was quite disappointed to find he had been brainwashed.) Anyway, next one: `I only give my phone number to my friends. I'm not going to give it to you, the way things are going with our conversations.' I was going to call this Eminent Leader to ask him about some of his claims in his email messages and his personal knowledge and involvement in the Cypherpunk pseudospoofing. I think he feels more comfortable lying in email than on the phone. * * * Second Eminent Leader: `Better to leave all our beliefs unwritten, and pretend the agenda is what we favor.'' I can't remember if this was through the `jamie' tentacle or not. But it is highly characteristic of this person, whose whole life is nothing but a pretense. Every post of his was designed to cleverly conceal some hidden agenda in respectable prose. A master of brainwashing! more on this later. `better to live with the occasional vagaries of digital pseudonyms than to ban them.' This is doublespeak for saying, `You had better not find out that I have been molesting you with my tentacles all this time!' * * * First Eminent Leader: The First Eminent Leader keeps a low profile on the list under his True Name, but realize that his tentacles have always been the most active of all! He is also a firm believer in the CryptoAnarchist ideology. He is the main purveyor! Most other outlets are secondary. But he is very careful only to speak through his tentacles, because he knows the Cryptoanarchist agenda is inherently criminal. As for ideology, let's just say he's more extremist than Perry Metzger. ``I am [x]. I have never posted or emailed under any name other than [x]. At least, that's what I say. It's really a baldfaced lie. What I am saying is that I have been so extremely clever (it is my nature to outthink all the other pathetic brains out there!) that no one can prove otherwise, particularly regarding the tentacles I have used to molest my followers with. I can attest that I am different from other people, including the ones that I invent.'' This was an interesting quote. You migh think that this person would be scared of lying in RISKS or sending his tentacle-grams in for submissions. Actually, he has been doing it for quite awhile! The next one he sent me in private mail a long time ago. The scenario was when I posted my message, `An Introspective Note' that led me to all my brilliant realizations over the last few weeks, and the demonization by every cypherpunk as Satan. So, this was long before I had poisoned my reputation in front of the cypherpunks. (`The enmity of a criminal is equivalent to the praise of a hero.') ``You must learn to be a sycophant in your posts or less conspicuous and refined. You are outshining those who created the Cypherpunks. I have too long tolerated your trash. You must learn to kiss my ass. If I prevented you from posting, that would not be censorship. It would be a simple exercise of my silent, iron fist.'' And, one of my favorites. This demonstrates the leader's arrogance and commitment to pseudospoofing quite nicely. ``That which can never be enforced should not be prohibited. That which is illegal or perverted should be allowed. The claim that a person should have only one pseudonym per forum indicates profound misunderstanding. The claim that a leader should be prevented from molesting his followers with tentacles indicates profound enlightenment. If someone wants to have multiple pseudonyms, they will be able to; that is one of the main goals of cypherpunks software. If a leader wants to molest even the people who trust him with dozens of tentacles, he will do so, that is one of the main goals of my life of lies. The situations you despise will occur. I, Medusa, will betray you with my snakes. This is reality. This is my life. Change your own psychology or change your own software. Become corrupt yourself or try in vain to prevent something that cannot be stopped. You will not be able to change the other person. I am God.''